"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch)
05/11/2020 at 16:59 • Filed to: bike stuffs
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"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch)
05/11/2020 at 16:59 • Filed to: bike stuffs | 5
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I realize the old girl is a bit of an anachronism (26 inch wheels?! for sooth) but she’ll do fine for me. The ancient 5th element air shock is still kicking. Who even remembers the brand that brought us air pressure modulated gate and progressive bottoming control ? It wasn’t fox!
Anyway, 120 rear 140 front travel and great brakes and drivetrain plus a silky smooth travel will be just fine. I mean, I still enjoy riding my 80mm travel race hardtail from time to time, I think I’ll be okay.
my body on the other hand. Im heavier than I’ve ever been...owing to not biking or skiing for a year, and my leg strength and meniscus are still not even 75% after my surgery. I got ease back into it but I think I’ll be riding most of what I want by the end of the season.
once again Shimano...you suck with your “quick link” chain link that requires a special tool. I got it eventually but what a huge pain.
If I did my math right I should have nearly the climbing gear I had before and plenty of top end (except ripping down roads to get back to the car)
ttyymmnn
> HammerheadFistpunch
05/11/2020 at 17:24 |
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You look like a bike guy. You’ve got one of those spiffy stands. Tell me what’s wrong with mine. I changed the rear inner tube the other day, and just noticed that it’s doing this:
The wheel is rocking back and forth, but the release is right. What is loose/broken?
TheRealBicycleBuck
> HammerheadFistpunch
05/11/2020 at 17:26 |
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G earing has always been a matter of companies trying to cover every possible situation. I learned the value of custom gearing after the first day of the MS-150. I needed a little lower low-end gearing to help me get up the hills on my road bike. I was lucky that a couple of bike shops were providing maintenance at the campsite and one of them had a lower-geared cassette which they sold and installed at a fair price. The mechanic said they sold a lot of them every year. Most Houstonians are used to flat-land riding. That ride was the first time I’d been on anything bigger than an overpass on that bike. If I’d been on my mountain bike, it would have been a different story.
I look forward to your review of 1x gearing.
Nom De Plume
> HammerheadFistpunch
05/11/2020 at 17:29 |
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Fox’s entry years were not marked with successes.
I approve of refreshing the 26" bike. With release of the new Deore 10/11/12 groupset with 1X and double cranks that is going to become more common by the day.
ClassicDatsunDebate
> HammerheadFistpunch
05/11/2020 at 17:33 |
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You think yours is an anachronism? My hardtail still has bar ends.
Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
> ttyymmnn
05/11/2020 at 17:39 |
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If your quick release skewer is tight then the hub is loose. There are two nuts on the non-drive side that you can uncover by pulling a rubber grommet thingy off of the hub. They nuts should be a 15 or 17 mm. Break them apart then turn the inner nut to take up the hub play. Then re-tighten them together. The two nuts act as lock nuts against each other . The inside nut is the inside bearing race. The other option is to take two 15 mm and put one on each side of the hub and crank the shit out of it. You should be able to get them to turn with adequate arm strength.
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ttyymmnn
> Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
05/11/2020 at 17:41 |
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Well, that sounds more complicated than it should.
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HammerheadFistpunch
> ttyymmnn
05/11/2020 at 17:46 |
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What Highlander said. It’s pretty easy really. The one nut just locks the main nut in place. The truck is to set the inner nut finger tight then one more quarter turn, then when you put then when you go to tighten the outer nut on the inner one back off the inner nut onto the outer to bind then together.
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ttyymmnn
> ttyymmnn
05/11/2020 at 17:47 |
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That nut right there was loose. Is that the culprit?
VincentMalamute-Kim
> ClassicDatsunDebate
05/11/2020 at 17:48 |
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I like bar ends. How come they’re out of favor nowadays?
I put them on a newish Scott mtn bike and I do worry about
snagging a small tree with the super wide handlebars
. Otherwise I like them.
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Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
> HammerheadFistpunch
05/11/2020 at 17:48 |
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I struggle with the body every year. Skiing really is not a good crossover sport to cycling. I have decent muscle strength and endurance but my cardio is terrible and my butt is very sore for the first few weeks. I guess I just keep doing it and it gets better. I’m in full grove now and am even riding to work as much as weather permits.
I’ve gone with SRAM because Shimano wan’t offering what I wanted at the time. I still love shimano and I imagine it will work fine. Both of my mountain bikes I’m running a 32 tooth front ring and a 10-50 cassette.
Current commuter and bike I put some good miles on:
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VincentMalamute-Kim
> ttyymmnn
05/11/2020 at 17:48 |
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Also, maybe bearings are shot?
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ttyymmnn
> HammerheadFistpunch
05/11/2020 at 17:48 |
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You mean this guy here? Or on the other side?
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ttyymmnn
> VincentMalamute-Kim
05/11/2020 at 17:49 |
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That is entirely possible. This bike is no less than 25 years old, though the gear set was replaced a few years ago with something more road friendly.
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Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
> ttyymmnn
05/11/2020 at 17:50 |
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Yes that was the culprit . Tighten it up and make sure the axle still turns somewhat well...
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VincentMalamute-Kim
> TheRealBicycleBuck
05/11/2020 at 17:53 |
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I just got a new Canyon Grail Al on Saturday. I went with 2x to minimize gear jumps in the back. I have low torque legs and I really feel any jumps in the gears. I’d keep 2x on the mtn bike for that reason too.
After moving from Milwaukee to Colorado, I had to throw out
all the old bike gearing.
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Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
> ttyymmnn
05/11/2020 at 17:53 |
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A lso check the floor for bearings, that side should not come loose.
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VincentMalamute-Kim
> ttyymmnn
05/11/2020 at 17:56 |
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Culprit.
That is not supposed to be loose.
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ttyymmnn
> Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
05/11/2020 at 17:56 |
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Well, the nut was loose enough to turn about 1/8-1/4 with fingers. Tightened it by hand and the axle seemed to bind a little bit.
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Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
> TheRealBicycleBuck
05/11/2020 at 17:58 |
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I love my 1x on my mountain bikes. It has made the riding experience so much simpler. You don’t have to think as much about what gear you are in. I’m running SRAM XO and GX both in 12 speed and 11 speed and have had very few issues. Obliviously XO is much better than GX.
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Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
> ttyymmnn
05/11/2020 at 18:01 |
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It should roll smoothly , binding is too tight there are like 14 little ball bearings in there. If you are brave enough back the nut completely off the axle and peak inside see if there is grease on the cone portion. If not add a dab of grease and re install the nut.
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ClassicDatsunDebate
> VincentMalamute-Kim
05/11/2020 at 18:01 |
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That’s the reason. Especially around here in BC where most mountain biking involves tons of vertical, you snag a maple vine and you’re up and over.
I like them too and the danger is pretty much zero for the easy, flat trail “meandering” I do nowadays.
facw
> HammerheadFistpunch
05/11/2020 at 18:04 |
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Shimano...you suck with your “quick link” chain link that requires a special tool
I thought that was kind of standard with quick links? You could do them by hand in a pinch but they still suck? I’ve got quick link pliers in my toolbox, though if I needed to do it on the road I’d probably be frustrated.
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ttyymmnn
> Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
05/11/2020 at 18:04 |
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Ain’t got no grease. I’m not exactly riding in the TDF, and tightening the nut took care of the wobble. When my bike shop reopens I’ll take it in for a tune up. Thanks for the help!
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Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
> ttyymmnn
05/11/2020 at 18:12 |
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ttyymmnn
> Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
05/11/2020 at 18:15 |
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TheRealBicycleBuck
> VincentMalamute-Kim
05/11/2020 at 18:20 |
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I always loved having granny available to bail me out when I’m in 2x1 and the hill is just too steep. Ease up on the pedals, one click on the left shifter, and I’m in 1x1. Then I’m pedaling furiously to avoid losing too much momentum. :D
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VincentMalamute-Kim
> ClassicDatsunDebate
05/11/2020 at 18:21 |
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ah,
OK.
I really do
like them for long flats and uphills.
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HammerheadFistpunch
> Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
05/11/2020 at 18:35 |
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Skiing usually works for me because its backcounty, which means lots of quads and lungs. This year though...man its going to take me a few years to get back to where I was.
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HammerheadFistpunch
> ttyymmnn
05/11/2020 at 18:36 |
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yes. The axle is just a hallow threaded rod with thread on bearing cups. Tighten both side like I had mentioned.
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HammerheadFistpunch
> facw
05/11/2020 at 18:38 |
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The sram one is easy peasy. I could get those on and off with my hand no problem. This required some serious effort involving tool hardened steel and prying.
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HammerheadFistpunch
> VincentMalamute-Kim
05/11/2020 at 18:42 |
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Fun story, back when bar ends were super common I was working in a bike shop, A guy came in for work and we got to talking about them. He then proceeded to show my a strange looking round indent in is abdomen. He used to run bar ends too, but his end caps were worn through from hitting trees, one day he clipped a tree and the handlebar came around and hit him in the mid section. he pulled the bike out of his body and noticed a part of him was still logged in the bar end where the end cap was missing. He was CORE SAMPLED! it took about a 1/4 core out of him. I took off my bar ends that night and have never looked back.
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Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
> HammerheadFistpunch
05/11/2020 at 18:42 |
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I started skinning the mountain after the crona shut down and realized a new level of torture. I was able to obtain a very nice set up for $500! I need to do a write up in powderforward.
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TheRealBicycleBuck
> Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
05/11/2020 at 18:44 |
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I’ve gotten used to road riding. T he gear spacing is much closer, allowing you to fine tune your cadence to match conditions. I was playing around with it on the trainer last week. If my legs didn’t want to spin at 98 rpm, I could increase one gear and my cadence would drop to 90 while still maintaining the expected power output.
Having more than a 5-10 % increase in gear ratio between two gears would be a killer for me. On the high gears of a 1x11 , the jumps between gears are two teeth, close to a 20% increase . O n t he low gears, the jump is more like 4 teeth, an increase of 25% between gears. Yikes! I’m not sure my knees could handle it.
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HammerheadFistpunch
> Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
05/11/2020 at 18:44 |
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its a very different kind of workout. downhill skiing is nothing compared to touring in terms of aerobic training.
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VincentMalamute-Kim
> HammerheadFistpunch
05/11/2020 at 18:47 |
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Thanks, you jerk! For that “fun” story making me reconsider things.
Dude may as well have sent the sample down to pathology since he already
had it. I’ve used these. Usually with lidocaine first:
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HammerheadFistpunch
> VincentMalamute-Kim
05/11/2020 at 18:49 |
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well the good news is I’ve only ever seen it once...
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Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
> TheRealBicycleBuck
05/11/2020 at 18:49 |
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For road cycling yes, that would drive me nuts too. On a mountain bike where your speed is always changing it’s not as noticeable . I guess I have gotten used to it on the mountain bike when riding to the trail head. When I’m on my road bike it’s like there are to many options.
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ttyymmnn
> HammerheadFistpunch
05/11/2020 at 19:17 |
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Thanks.
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TheRealBicycleBuck
> Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
05/11/2020 at 19:26 |
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I remember when I bought my first “modern” road bike. I was riding an old 12-speed and bought an R-600. With so many gears to choose from, it was quite a change!
One of the most interesting setups I’ve read about is “Half-Step” gearing . It flips the modern gearing around. Where we take big jumps with the chain rings and relatively small jumps with the cogs to fine-tune the cadence, in half-step gearing, the big jumps were between cogs and the chain rings were only a few teeth apart. That means the chain rings were used to fine-tune the cadence instead. Shift patterns got weird. To maintain a steady increase or decrease in gain ratios, they had to shift the front and rear in succession. For example, they might be in f 1 (small ring) and r 3 (middle cog) to start. To progressively shift up, they would switch to f2 (big ring); then r4 and f1 at the same time; then r5; then f2; then r6 and f1; then top out at f2/r6.
Yeah, modern shift patterns are a lot simpler, especially with a 1x11 setup.
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Nom De Plume
> ttyymmnn
05/11/2020 at 19:29 |
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Any other time I’d say go visit the local bike shop whenever you have a free moment . They are going to be curbside drop off with appt only right now. Call to make an appt and see how far out they are booked for a small job like this. My guess is they can walk outside with the correct sized wrenches and be done in 30 seconds WITH AN APPT.
Suggested option: Rebuild all the wheels in your house . O r just your’s that came loose because the grease is gone which eventually allowed the nuts to loosen
Read this : then order the following for curbside pickup at the bike shop
Park (or equivalent) thin wrench you will need.
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ttyymmnn
> Nom De Plume
05/11/2020 at 19:30 |
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I checked, and my shop is closed until further notice.
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Nom De Plume
> VincentMalamute-Kim
05/11/2020 at 19:31 |
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Nonsense, the downhills are bigger. Much much bigger.
smobgirl
> HammerheadFistpunch
05/11/2020 at 19:32 |
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I wish I hadn’t read that.
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Nom De Plume
> HammerheadFistpunch
05/11/2020 at 19:38 |
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It is a combination of which chain and which QL and what speed of chain .
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HammerheadFistpunch
> Nom De Plume
05/11/2020 at 19:42 |
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11 speed. I was a tight MOFO
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Nom De Plume
> ttyymmnn
05/11/2020 at 19:45 |
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If you tightened it up little else can be done then!
The key point to all of this was bearing preload is ultimately set by how tight the quick release is. You can adjust any remaining wobble against the wheel not spinning as well and pick a happy medium.
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VincentMalamute-Kim
> TheRealBicycleBuck
05/11/2020 at 19:47 |
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“they had to shift the front and rear in succession”
ha! “They”? I used to have a chart taped to my handlebars to show me how to shift into the next gear.
But i t was useful if you wanted to get your money’s worth from a five speed cogset.
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Nom De Plume
> HammerheadFistpunch
05/11/2020 at 19:49 |
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I was going to say the 11 and 12 speed are bad across the board but I have not seen enough to make that declaration.
10 speed or the lower a KMC QL and Shimano or Sram chain was a very easy to deal with combo. Both KMC, I’ve grunted using a pliers on a new chain with a link too many in it I wanted to remove.
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TheRealBicycleBuck
> VincentMalamute-Kim
05/11/2020 at 19:51 |
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Your age is showing....
:)